Curse

Skuld · Dec 10, 2007, 09:18 AM // 09:18

Its a faction sink, incase you hadn't noticed.

Yawgmoth · Dec 10, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

It's still possible to get 15-20k per hour by brainless farming but no PvP mode allows anyone to get that much faction, and even if it happens, it's certainly not consistently. And farming is available to anyone, no real restrictions.
At the moment the only PvP way of getting that many keys per hour is successful play in ats. And that's completely out of reach for the vast majority of PvE'rs that are interested in getting the hot drops.
The high key price is therefore justified.

Wish Swiftdeath · Dec 10, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

meh ill just wait till december 17th and get another few keys

Fried Tech · Dec 10, 2007, 12:36 PM // 12:36

If you don't like the price of the keys then go save up 5k balth. and get one that way.

jiggerjay · Dec 10, 2007, 12:42 PM // 12:42

its simple supply and demand, at the moment demand is high to see what all the fuss is about, in about a month or two they will be abou half price i bet.

Iotan · Dec 10, 2007, 12:42 PM // 12:42

Keys are just another way to gamble in GW and from what I've seen in other games, people love to gamble, especially when it's simple to do. 5k is a relatively easy amount to get, especially if you know where to farm and like others have said it's easier to get 20k in an hour than 20k faction. The only people who will make more money selling keys than farming is people who do well in the ATs or do very well in HA. That means there are some Euros who will make quite a lot and just a handful of Americans that will.

I just want to see what happens to the price when someone finds one of the ultra rare chest-only drops that Anet has hinted at. I won't mind selling keys at much more than 5k/each

Phoenix Tears · Dec 10, 2007, 12:43 PM // 12:43

these keyes are really imo not more then 2 Platin worth...

Whoever pays 5 Platin for 1 key must be stupid... 5 Platin payed ..for a high chance only to receive 1 firewater or 1 creme brulee...
self when you receive 1 lockpick..you made in the end with 5k only a money loss of 3,5P >.> using those 5P normally for lockpicks wold net u at least 3 lockpicks if u buy them by npc...and like 4 locks, if u buy from a player for 1250g/key

even when u get a gold item...most stuff out of it isnt more worth, then what the npc pays u for it....you are only lucky when you receive something with a skin, thats highly wanted ...

receiving eternal swords out of it is really rare and no reason to sell those keys for 5Platin, especially now, where the huge boom has begun and millions of players trade all they massive amounts of balth points and tourny bonus points for keys ...

millions of players are selling now several hundreds of those keys...this means ...the offer of these keys is GIGANTIC ...the market gets flooded by these keys within hours

i can realy repeat only ..whoever buy them for 5K...is either stupid or must have too much money to waste it ....

kvndoom · Dec 10, 2007, 12:54 PM // 12:54

There are a lot of keys NOW, but only because there were a vast number of UAX players who literally could not use their stored faction, and these people all dumped their faction as soon as keys became available. For most people, faction comes very slowly so I think after this initial surge the keys will become rarer as people grind to bring their faction levels back up. Their price may well go even higher once the supply dwindles and once this ultra-rare, yet-unseen item drops for someone.

MithranArkanere · Dec 10, 2007, 01:04 PM // 13:04

The current craze about drops it's because there were a lot of unspent faction. Now they have to start earning it again. The good part is that a lof of weapons got their ridiculous prices dropped to normal amounts.

I know somebody that will make the Training Course everyday from now on... XD

ayame ftw · Dec 10, 2007, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Actaully, its not a gold sink. Its a way to transfer gold from one segement of the population to another.

I dont think it either of those reasons.
It’s just a way to spend your balts faction if u have unlocked everything. I wish something like this was implemented a lot sooner, I think I waisted more then +5 mil faction, because I had no way of spending it…

Roshi_ikkyu · Dec 10, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

People are freaking about about it for a number of reasons,

The rich elite are worried there 100k+XXecto weapons can be found in a silly lil chest.

The blind hopefuls are crying about the price of keys, 5k.

And the PvE are having 'what about me' envy.

When in reality 3 weeks from now its will be a passing comment, people will stop buying keys there prices will fall because majority is getting ale or damn creme brulees. The only people using the chest will be hardcore PvPers who are unlocked, and really have nothing better to do with there faction besides the chest of randomness.

Leading to a funny in joke, "I got a (insert uber rare weapon here!"
"Where from?"
"Zaishen chest"
"lmao people still use that think?"
"I was bored and maxed with faction"

fenix · Dec 10, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33

It's 5k because the ones selling them are choosing to charge 5k. They'll drop when the buyers want to pay less...

freekedoutfish · Dec 10, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Their worth 5k to trade? Damn, if i'd known that I wouldnt have used the ones I bought with my Bal faction! Thanks for telling me!

IslandHermet · Dec 10, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

Does anyone here think that the price people are selling the keys for is way over the top, like the chest is good and all but isnt acauly as good as a HM locked chest because of the added chance of crappy consumables.

And sure people say it drops eternal blades but i have yet to believe that, if of course it does drop eternal blades and other ultra rares, then rare enough stay at 5k a key, but if not its just a scam lol.

Anything think it'll die down? considering all it takes is a few pvp rounds to get keys...

It DROPS EVERYTHING IN THE GAME FROM CRAP to UBER RARE.

I can not wait for these Non UAX people to stop with this chest and leave it to us UAXers who dont want tokens.

Gambit Shinobi · Dec 10, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

It DROPS EVERYTHING IN THE GAME FROM CRAP to UBER RARE.

I can not wait for these Non UAX people to stop with this chest and leave it to us UAXers who dont want tokens.

Not EVERYTHING. It won't drop exclusive items that only drop in dungeon chests. Such as many rare Eye of the North weapons (Silverwing, Demon Fangs, Voltaic Spear, etc. etc.).

Kyp Jade · Dec 10, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

Complaining about a 5k key price? I dont mean to sound stuck up or anything, but if you want a key, you can pay me 5k for it, or you can go get balth faction. If you dont want to pay me 5k I can open the chest, I need more monies anyway. Most of us pvp types dont have much in the way of gold.

HawkofStorms · Dec 10, 2007, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by ayame ftw

I dont think it either of those reasons.
It’s just a way to spend your balts faction if u have unlocked everything. I wish something like this was implemented a lot sooner, I think I waisted more then +5 mil faction, because I had no way of spending it…

Oh yeah, well first and foremost it is designed as a Bathazar faction sink. Nobody disputes that.

I'm just point out that its just NOT a gold sink. Gold sinks remove money from the economy. If you pay somebody 5k for a key, that doesn't remove the money from the economy, it just moves the money to somebody else.

garethporlest18 · Dec 10, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

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Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

Not EVERYTHING. It won't drop exclusive items that only drop in dungeon chests. Such as many rare Eye of the North weapons (Silverwing, Demon Fangs, Voltaic Spear, etc. etc.).

Um yes it does drop those.

Yichi · Dec 10, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by Kyp Jade

Most of us pvp types dont have much in the way of gold.

I have lots of gold now. Ty pve people for buying all my keys.

Mordakai · Dec 10, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

Well a chest that drops PvE items for PvP players isn't exactly a new concept. There has been one in the HoH for quite a while.

I think as time goes on, and more people report the extremely valuable items that can drop from this chest, many of you will be changing your mind about this one. There are rare items that can drop from this chest that you cannot get anywhere else in the game. Others that have proven to fetch a fine price in the past.

I assure you, it is not all Crème Brûlée and lockpicks. It's like a Guild Wars slot machine, and I can't wait to hear about someone hitting the jackpot.

Stuff you cannot get anywhere else?

5k might be too cheap.